brightknightie: Janette and Nick in the Renaissance ("What makes you think that I'd take you back?") (IB)
Amy ([personal profile] brightknightie) wrote2008-06-07 08:55 am

Whose Conservatory Students in "False Witness"

I recently rewatched "False Witness" with the closed captioning on, and was fascinated to note that the captioning has Lacroix say to Nick: "your students at the Conservatory" (rather than the "the students at the Conservatory" I had always heard aloud).  Now, the captioning is frequently wrong.  No question.  I'm grateful to have any captioning at all, but what we have misspells Janette's name all the time ("Jeanette" is traditional, but that's not the Raven's owner), forever mishears little things (for example, it writes "Miss Paris" instead of "Miss Priss" -- as in "prissy" -- as Anne Foley's stage name in "Dance by the Light of the Moon"), and those are just off the top of my head.  Pop in any episode and you'll find more.

But what about here?  What have you always heard Lacroix say?  Janette calls the musicians "common street players," but if they are Nick's students, she is being facetious in that remark, teasing him -- and it changes the complexion of her murder of the girl.  Perhaps the three of them came on purpose to hear the boy and girl perform, from Nick's perspective (though he didn't successfully communicate that to Janette).  Regardless, if indeed the word is "your," then we know Nick's occupation at that time!  And what a Nick-like occupation, combining teaching and music, both of which he loves.

(And how often we make him a music teacher in fanfiction!  Dorothy's "The Gift" leaps to mind, and even I did it once in flashbacks an age ago.)

FW Flashback Setting

[identity profile] brightknightie.livejournal.com 2008-06-09 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
>"You know the "street" in those flashbacks is actually indoors, right?"

I always guessed it was, because it has that "indoors" look to me, but I never knew where it was filmed before. Thank you so much for sharing the information and the anecdote! Yes, that is an outstanding location use.

>"The tavern and the courtroom are both the same common room"

This, I could tell, and I always assumed it was in fact part of the story -- that they were holding the court in the tavern, which was so common in the nineteenth-century US (in the west, etc.) that it didn't occur to me it would not also have happened in Ireland, England, Scotland or Wales (wherever that flashback happens, precisely -- Irish names on the characters are the only clue) though I now realize that any place that has a Conservatory should also have a courthouse!

On the other hand, what if it is not a court at all, but instead an inquest -- that is, the preliminary determination that there was a murder, before there can be a trial for murder? That wouldn't necessarily have to be held in a courthouse!

Hmmmm. We should see whether [livejournal.com profile] chelseagirl47 might be interested in sharing her expertise on the British nineteenth-century legal system / literature in this context! It's a Janette scene -- she might play! ;-)
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Re: FW Flashback Setting

[identity profile] wiliqueen.livejournal.com 2008-06-09 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
They have the judge/magistrate/whatever behind a pretty hefty piece of furniture that doesn't seem to me to fit in a tavern. But again, I haven't looked at it properly in a long while. I ran through all three seasons in the background on work-from-home days last fall, but obviously didn't look at much at all, let alone in detail. I do recall my tour guide saying that they used the room from different angles, and I think the desk/podium/whatever was also an existing feature of the location, but I wouldn't swear to that part.

Re: FW Flashback Setting

[identity profile] chelseagirl47.livejournal.com 2008-06-09 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
What was common in the 19th century US was also common in Victorian England -- I'm thinking specifically of the Coroner's Inquest for Krook (the owner of the junk shop and double for the Lord Chancellor, who spontaneously combusts) in Bleak House, which took place in the local tavern, the Sol's Arms.

Fwiw.

Re: FW Flashback Setting

[identity profile] brightknightie.livejournal.com 2008-06-09 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! The more I think about it, the more I suppose that scene is an inquest.

And now I am amused by linking spontaneous combustion fiction to vampire fiction. :-)