The List Rules

Saturday, November 8th, 2008 09:56 pm
brightknightie: Three seasons of Forever Knight (Cast)

Just for reference -- there have been no changes -- here are the current list rules.  As you know, I personally feel that the two main email lists are still the heart of Forever Knight fandom, and they still feel like my own fannish home, even though I don't visit nearly as much as I used to.  If we transplant the fandom's heart someday, I'll deal.  Until then, the fact that the lists still exist at all makes me happy.  (There were 273 recipients of my last fkfic-l post, the acknowledgement said.) 

The rules are numbered more-or-less in the order they accumulated.

ExpandIntroduction: The Listowners )

ExpandRules for ForKni-L: The Discussion List )

ExpandRules for FKFic-L: The Fiction List )


brightknightie: Janette leaning on the Raven bar (Janette)
[Poll #1251783]

A month or so ago, [livejournal.com profile] pj1228 and I had a delightful little debate on this subject on forkni.  After much canonical examination, we were unable to sway each other, and determined that canon cannot disprove either interpretation (cool, huh?).  Before I import my side of that here, and reveal which angle I championed, I want to learn what you think!  What is the mainstream perception on this?

brightknightie: Nick's caddy parked at his loft ("My Fandom Knows Trunk Space") (Caddy)
Recently, in FK on my Friends List:

  • On August 11, [livejournal.com profile] graphiteslog sketched out a Forever Knight/Sapphire & Steel crossover that sounds quite sensible and intriguing.  (And if any of you have ever heard of Sapphire & Steel before, she would probably be gratified to learn of your existence.)

  • On August 8, [livejournal.com profile] ithildyn pondered an FK/HL story she wrote in March, called "Shattered," which, to her surprise, ended up featuring Nick.  She mentioned an eventual sequel.

  • On August 5, someone posted something noteworthy, under a lock.

  • On August 2, [livejournal.com profile] abby82 recapped aspects of a recent "Curiouser & Curiouser" discussion on forkni-l.

  • On July 20, [livejournal.com profile] abby82 recommended two FK f/f stories: Havoc's untitled Fleur/Kate piece, and also "What Makes a Mortal Interesting," a Janette/Natalie story I'd never seen before.


brightknightie: Urs looking at her drink in the Raven (Urs)
[I will be cross-posting this to forkni-l.  I'm posting it here first this time, though.]

First, a word of caution.  I do not know the people running this project, and neither do the friends I asked.  The moderators of this community are strangers.

That said, there is a project called "The Forsaken Fandom Awards" ([livejournal.com profile] forsaken_fandom).  Their goal is to encourage fiction in fandoms that have few or no active awards projects of their own.  This includes us: FK fandom.  This is their second round; stories from the past three years [Correction 08/09: five years] are eligible.  In their previous round, few FK authors were nominated, none of whom post to fkfic-l these days, if I'm interpreting correctly (Fenris, Nancy W., and a Mel M. whom I think is not our Mel M.), though a special WIP award went to Lisa S., who posted part of a story to the list.

I learned of the project last week, when someone kindly nominated my "Starwort" from earlier this year.  A moderator emailed me, asking whether I would give permission for them to list the story and link to it on my site; without my asking, they promised not to post my email address and not to repost my story.  I spent the week hoping to find someone who knew them; I failed, but emailed back and gave permission anyway.

As this active awards project includes FK, we can certainly participate.  And it's downright silly for "Starwort" to be the lone FK nomination, which it apparently is at the moment.  Nancy K., Ell, PJ, Jarvinia, Elena, Kristen, and many others have posted excellent new FK fiction in the designated period!

Again, I'm not acquainted with the moderators, and that makes me anxious.  (I'm a Knightie; I angst.)  But encouraging more FK fanfiction is a worthy goal.  So here's their posted schedule:
  • Nominations: July 11, 2008 to August 15, 2008
  • Voting & Judging: August 16, 2008 to September 20, 2008
  • Winners Announced & Banners Posted: September 27, 2008

An overview with links to their rules is on their profile.  You do not have to have a LiveJournal account to participate in nominating or voting, but if you don't, they will verify your email address before counting your contribution.

That's all I know.  If someone else knows more, by all means...?

The Reference Section

Wednesday, July 16th, 2008 12:48 am
brightknightie: Nick plays piano but looks distracted (Nick Solemn)
[Cross-posted from forkni-l.]

There have been a few posts lately asking for the names of middling-to-minor characters, like Amy Lambert from "I Will Repay" and Cynthia Lambert Luce from "Undue Process."  I thought I'd mention the FK Character Directory that I've been working on for a few years now.  It's alphabetical by first name, and includes every character ever named aloud, or in the credits after first season (if the credit can be confidently matched to a person on screen).  I believe it's easy to search, using a browser's "Find" function.  It's complete up to "Night in Question" so far.  I will finish it, but have not just yet for the typical reason that third season can be an emotional slog; still, I'm getting there.

In parallel to that list of people, I've been working on a list of the places and things unique to the FK universe.  It is also complete up to NiQ, so far, and it's my favorite.  These are tidbits that can really make a story pop.  I find them tremendously fun.

And of course there are the character FAQs that I originally made in '97.

They are all intended to be of use to people writing FK fanfiction.

Dingbat Alexandra

Friday, July 4th, 2008 10:02 am
brightknightie: Urs looking at her drink in the Raven (Urs)
[Cross-posted from forkni-l, where my previous post received a wink and a rhetorical inquiry into my feelings about Alexandra the Dingbat Barmaid.]

Yup. :-)  I don't much like the Alexandra character from "Fatal Mistake."  She earned her epithet.  But on the up side, I don't think we're supposed to like her!  I think she's supposed to be precisely what she is, and that's one of the glories of first season.

In my opinion, despite her shortcomings, Alexandra is a well-rounded character compared to some of her later-season equivalents, such as Amalia (CL) or Alyssa (DoN) or Liselle (TG).  At any rate, she gets more lines than they do.  We know some of Alexandra's past, her hopes, her motivations: that she had never been farther than the next county, that she longed to travel, that she found Nick attractive in part for being well-traveled, and of course that she, um, wasn't shy.  We know she was a tavern serving woman, and we know some of how she approached her customers.  We know she searched for Nick over time.  And in the present day, we discover that she resents and despises her vampirism, putting her into a select company with Nick, Serena, Sofia and perhaps Urs.  (Maybe even Feliks, but that's another analysis entirely.)

Of course, Alexandra is also an easily manipulated nitwit, by all appearances.  ExpandRead more... )

Surely Alexandra is meant to parallel the young hoodlum who attempts to take a misguided revenge on Stonetree in that episode.  Both Alexandra and the boy have committed against others the very crimes of which they accuse the person on whom they wish to take revenge.  Neither of them run on all cylinders -- the boy is apparently drug-addled -- and so her dim-bulb status serves a structural purpose in the episode; I respect that!

Have I gone and talked myself into liking Alexandra just a little bit better?  Maybe.  But that's a long, long ladder she's got to climb up to guest-star ground level.

brightknightie: Nick and his remote control (Remote Control)
[Crossposted from forkni-l.  In Saturday's digest, a long-time listmember reminisced about running dual VCRs to discover the differences between the Canadian and US cuts long ago, and pondered doing it again now to pin down what's missing from the DVDs, in response to what [livejournal.com profile] wiliqueen and I discovered missing from "I Will Repay" on the DVD.]

That would be a great favor to the fandom!  I would follow your progress eagerly.  But I'm afraid it might even take three TVs this time: US cut, Canadian cut and the DVDs.  Four if we can circulate the first-run German cut.  (Is it lucky or unlucky that only first season comes in quite so many flavors?)

When the first-season DVDs came out, I checked "Last Act" to reassure myself that no footage was missing, even though the run-times clearly indicated the first-run Canadian cuts.  I picked "Last Act" because it's peculiar in having some footage that aired only in the US as well as some that aired only in Canada (and, besides, it's so good! ~g~).  ExpandRead more... ) I should have checked more episodes, obviously. :-)  Why, why, why would anyone cut Nick and Lacroix's exchange about souls from the flashbacks of "False Witness"?  Madness!

Golly, but I love first season.  I rewatched "Fatal Mistake" recently, and kept thinking that while it was perhaps the least admired episode of first season, and surely suffers two painful script burbles as well as arguably one of the worst necks-of-the-week ever, it is nevertheless smart, well-constructed and satisfying.

brightknightie: Nick's caddy parked at his loft ("My Fandom Knows Trunk Space") (Caddy)
[Cross-posted from fkfic-l, where one person referred to the vintage rumor of racier footage in the German cuts, and one of the German fans once again pointed out that there is no such footage, but in my opinion went a bit far by asserting that there is no extra footage at all.  This was my reply.]

I don't mean to disagree, and of course you are absolutely right about there being no no "flesh shots," but I have seen dubbed VHS copies of one German airing of FK's first season, and what I saw does have some brief footage that is additional to the Canadian airings.  In almost all cases, those shots are "atmosphere" extending the existing scenes -- the camera lingers longer on a set or prop, or a character walks a few more steps across a room or down a street.  I do not recall any of them including dialogue.  Nevertheless, those bits are additional to all the North American airings.

My favorite is Nick picking up and setting down a book on the credenza next to his answering machine.  Just a few seconds -- but what a prize! :-) Nick reading! In his home! Knightie-bookworm joy. ;-)

The one scene in all of first season in which I found a substantive content addition in the German episodes I saw was what I think of as Ilsa's flashback inside Nick's flashback in "Dead Issue."  ExpandRead more... )

I do know, from a recent conversation with [livejournal.com profile] wiliqueen, that the DVDs are missing footage I have on my VHS tapes.  We discovered missing dialogue in the flashbacks of "False Witness," darn it.  My copy of the DVD completely lacks Lacroix and Nick's exchange about souls ("Why do you think that is, Nicholas? Is it because they have souls?" / "And you do not." / "We do not."). Instead, it just stops early with Lacroix saying, "I should play again, but I'll never compare to them."  What a loss...

brightknightie: Nick plays piano but looks distracted (Nick Solemn)
Addendum 07/26/08:  Apparently, FanHistory.com is a problem on two fronts. First, aggressive inclusion of people's real-life information against their wishes, and second, it's a money-making scheme.  Susan posted to forkni-l to withdraw her support, and in her usual gracious manner of list-posting, included no details.  A nice initial summary here with follow-up here was recommended to me by a trusted friend.  Bad stuff.
--- End Addendum

Original Post:
Susan G. posted to forkni-l today.  That's an unusual event, worth noting!  And I'm way behind on digests, as usual, so it's coincidence that I saw it so quickly.  So what is she up to in FK?  FanHistory.com, it appears, with the FK Fanfiction Awards page, and perhaps thoughts of creating "something on the FKFic-L challenges."

I'm not familiar with this site, so it was probably as foolish as it was impulsive of me to go in and start adding links.  She invited, "Please feel free to go in and edit the wiki as need be - most of the stories on the award nom section need links," but I should have left it to others wiser in the ways of wikis in general and this site in particular.  I fervently hope I didn't fail to follow a format and mess up how it was supposed to be; if I did, please tell me how to put it right, and I will.  At any rate, the links I added are to story files on the authors' own sites -- except yours, [livejournal.com profile] wiliqueen, which is to the file to which you link from your own site; and Sarah B.'s, which she authorized me to archive for her years ago -- and I can perhaps link in most of the rest come the weekend if no one minds.  There are a handful that I know I absolutely cannot link -- lost stories, lost authors -- and I will be delighted if someone can show they are still available with their authors' permission.

I worry a little about some of the names in the list, as I always worry about such things when they pop up.  I edited mine, per my current custom.  All those years ago, most of us had no idea what the Net would become (there was no Google, no DSL, no IE!) and perhaps those same people today would rather go by other identifiers?  It's thorny. 

Fly-By FK Fillips

Sunday, April 13th, 2008 10:52 pm
brightknightie: Nick and Natalie in the caddy in the sunshine ("Seize Your Day in the Sun") (Sun)
Icons.  My FK activity this week was creating a small flock of NatPack icons for [livejournal.com profile] wiliqueen.  I hope at least one strikes her fancy; any that do not catch her eye, I will recycle for general "up for grabs" consumption for any other icon-deprived NatPackers.  (I'll mark them so, when the time comes.)  I hope I'm building my icon-making skills as I go; it's a new craft, and I have a lot to learn!  In and around the new icons for [livejournal.com profile] wiliqueen, I also created just a few more for myself, including this (Gratuitous Icon Post!) one with Natalie, Nick and the Caddie from "The Fix."

Fanfiction.  Writing "Starwort" (that long Fleur story) for the ficathon was a bit of a "high," and I'm experiencing a low in its wake.  A friend who did not have time to beta before the ficathon is taking a look at the story now, and will let me know what I can fix in her areas of expertise before taking the story home to fkfic-l.  Trying to figure out where to begin a completely different new story, and not succumb to the morass of not writing for fun (only work), I'm playing with [livejournal.com profile] hearts_blood's request for a NCIS/FK crossover for her birthday; we'll see.

Analysis.  The last forkni-l digest I read came on March 22.  That's not far behind, by my standards these days, but there was this one post that week to which I would really like to respond -- at length, citing a whole alphabet soup of episodes, in the good old way -- but I can't well do so until I catch up on all the digests since, to see if someone has beaten me to the punch.  Ah, well.  Key thought?  The thing the poster assumed is true, well, it appears only in Lacroix's dialogue, and only after first season.  This leaves the very strong interpretive possibility that, as Nick and Janette's dialogue in the first season explicitly contradicts Lacroix on this point, Lacroix is either mistaken or lying, and either way, most probably trying to manipulate Nick!  Ah, well. :-)

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